VG #2 how big for 100 or 1000 people?
= 100 meter diameter for 150 people
will ice rip and break from the centrifugal force and fly apart? people dumped into space, blood bursting from their eyes; pain torture exploding eardrums; trying to scream, but ho air in their lungs? how much ice? |
VG #3 How much ice?
100 meter diameter ship needs: 8000 tons, 215 m ship: 40,000 tons That is only 1 zuppmobile shipment per year, 3 zuppmobile per year for the big ship. How heavy is parachute cloth bag? that is a "Tank" |
VG #4 parachute cloth enveope: how heavy?
Joe Lewis says: polybenzoxazole PBO, 700,000 psi yield strength. density 1.44, safety factor 2; He would make a 5 mill weave of fine PBO fibers, and then cover the inside with a film layer to keep the water from leaking out. the bladder tank would be collapsible so one can launch it in a physically compact form. 100 m ship: water tank bladder weighs 12 tons, fits in 1/2 the
Shuttle bay
"Shuttle" is only a familiar nominal space vehicle to compares sizes and masses to. But will space freeze it enough soit will not fly apare? Do we need to haul a refrigerator inot orbit? Better not, or we are dead. |
VG #5 space refrigerator
At Earth's distance from the sun, a ship coated with Sheldahl Part Number G404300 will cool to -110 Celsius. This coating is Dupont FPE Teflon on 0.1 micron Silver, on .1 micron nickel. It costs $1000 per square meter in 1 meter quantities. They can really drop cost for 10,000 square meter orders. They are a relatively small company. a = .1, e= .85, 5 mill thick, a/e gives --> -110 Celsius, -170 Kelvin at 1 A.U. charts include this mass We still haven't answered the key question: will it fly apart? |
VG #6 Ice is Brick when cold. WONT
fly apart.
-20 C ice is ok for moon gravity, -80 C ice is ok for earth gravity |
Other points:
? PBO can do job without ice tensile strength.
? Didn't know about this until Joe Lewis showed me.
digging structures without a drill rig
ice like weak brick
creeps
? don't know how much, at -30 C
? really don't know how much creep at 125 Kelvin, like moon poles and
Moons of Jupiter
? pressure just above tripple point,
? so bubbles condense and dissappear
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digging
hot shovel, gets big cakes
hot cynlinder, core drills
hot iron on a rotating mandril, digs whatever your computer says.
collect the vapors
condense the vapors to get water
there should be other things in there too, hard to distill away.
Ys | 700000 | psi | yield stress of envelope material |
F | 3 | 1 | safety factor for Ys |
Po | 0.1 | psi | vapor Pressure mass from space |
G | 9.8 | m/s^2 | max centripital G's |
Tr | 100 | g/cm^2 | radiation shielding thickness |
rho_s | 1 | g/cm^3 | density structure |
rho_b | 3 | g/cm^3 | density envelope mass |
Vh | 92 | m^3 | volume per human, cubic meters |
millsgagelim | 10 | mills | gage limit |
k | 1 | tube diameter / ship diameter |
Ys | 700000 | psi | yield stress of envelope material |
F | 3 | 1 | safety factor for Ys |
Po | 0.1 | psi | vapor Pressure mass from space |
G | 9.8 | m/s^2 | max centripital G's |
Tr | 100 | g/cm^2 | radiation shielding thickness |
rho_s | 1 | g/cm^3 | density structure |
rho_b | 3 | g/cm^3 | density envelope mass |
Vh | 92 | m^3 | volume per human, cubic meters |
millsgagelim | 10 | mills | gage limit |
k | 1 | tube diameter / ship diameter |
structure mass | |||||
tons | |||||
21.5 | 46.4 | 100.0 | 215.4 | 464.2 | |
.002 | |||||
.005 | 6,018 | ||||
.01 | 2,429 | 16,513 | |||
.02 | 967 | 6,894 | 37,185 | ||
.05 | 575 | 3,750 | 19,739 | 96,647 | |
.1 | 221 | 1,501 | 7,994 | 39,315 | 187,245 |
.2 | 563 | 3,035 | 15,001 | 71,595 | 336,547 |
.5 | 1,039 | 5,087 | 24,180 | 113,463 | 529,293 |
structure mass | |||||
tons | |||||
21.5 | 46.4 | 100.0 | 215.4 | 464.2 | |
.002 | |||||
.005 | 6,018 | ||||
.01 | 2,429 | 16,513 | |||
.02 | 967 | 6,894 | 37,185 | ||
.05 | 575 | 3,750 | 19,739 | 96,647 | |
.1 | 221 | 1,501 | 7,994 | 39,315 | 187,245 |
.2 | 563 | 3,035 | 15,001 | 71,595 | 336,547 |
.5 | 1,039 | 5,087 | 24,180 | 113,463 | 529,293 |
Ys | 700000 | psi | yield stress of envelope material |
F | 3 | 1 | safety factor for Ys |
Po | 0.1 | psi | vapor Pressure mass from space |
G | 9.8 | m/s^2 | max centripital G's |
Tr | 100 | g/cm^2 | radiation shielding thickness |
rho_s | 1 | g/cm^3 | density structure |
rho_b | 3 | g/cm^3 | density envelope mass |
Vh | 92 | m^3 | volume per human, cubic meters |
millsgagelim | 10 | mills | gage limit |
k | 1 | tube diameter / ship diameter |
envelope mass | |||||
tons | |||||
21.5 | 46.4 | 100.0 | 215.4 | 464.2 | |
.002 | |||||
.005 | 9 | ||||
.01 | 4 | 25 | |||
.02 | 1 | 11 | 57 | ||
.05 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 148 | |
.1 | 1 | 2 | 12 | 60 | 286 |
.2 | 1 | 5 | 23 | 109 | 514 |
.5 | 2 | 8 | 37 | 173 | 808 |
Number of rooms | |||||
per person | |||||
21.5 | 46.4 | 100.0 | 215.4 | 464.2 | |
.002 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
.005 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
.01 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 87 |
.02 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 31 | 648 |
.05 | 1 | 1 | 24 | 423 | 5,320 |
.1 | 1 | 9 | 155 | 1,987 | 22,102 |
.2 | 3 | 54 | 696 | 7,805 | 82,164 |
.5 | 23 | 281 | 3,090 | 32,291 | 329,489 |
tensile stress required of structure mass | |||||
psi | |||||
22 | 46 | 100 | 215 | 464 | |
.002 | 15 | 33 | 71 | 152 | 329 |
.005 | 15 | 33 | 71 | 152 | 328 |
.01 | 15 | 33 | 70 | 151 | 326 |
.02 | 15 | 32 | 70 | 150 | 323 |
.05 | 15 | 31 | 67 | 145 | 313 |
.1 | 14 | 30 | 64 | 138 | 296 |
.2 | 12 | 26 | 57 | 122 | 263 |
.5 | 8 | 16 | 35 | 76 | 165 |